Join Jenn Payeur and renowned mineral researcher Morley Robbins for a deep-dive conversation that challenges everything you thought you knew about iron, copper, and your health.
In this eye-opening episode, Morley Robbins (aka “The Magnesium Man” and founder of the Root Cause Protocol) reveals why iron overload—not deficiency—is at the root of many modern health issues, and how copper is the missing key to restoring balance and energy. Discover the “three ring circus” of copper, iron, and oxygen, and learn how chronic stress, misinformation, and modern diets have led to widespread mineral imbalances.
Topics covered include:
- The real reason behind the iron overload epidemic
- Why most people diagnosed as “anemic” may actually have hidden iron toxicity
- The critical role of copper in energy production and iron recycling
- How stress disrupts mineral balance and leads to chronic illness
- Practical steps to re-balance your minerals through food, supplements, and lifestyle
- The dangers of blindly following mainstream health narratives and internet advice
- How to become more curious, discerning, and empowered in your health journey
Whether you’re struggling with fatigue, chronic illness, or just want to optimize your well-being, this conversation will give you the tools and insights to take control of your health.
🔗 Learn more about Morley Robbins and the Root Cause Protocol: https://therootcauseprotocol.com
00:00 – Introduction & Welcome
01:28 – The Three Ring Circus: Copper, Iron, and Oxygen
01:51 – Why We Get Sick: One Root Cause?
03:37 – The Magnesium Journey
04:44 – Discovering Copper’s Role
05:27 – Iron Overload: The Hidden Epidemic
07:00 – The Constantine Adrakatas Case
10:09 – Medical Bias Against Copper
13:09 – The Simultaneous Equation: Lower Iron, Raise Copper
14:35 – Stress, Modern Life, and Early Imbalance
17:05 – Iron in Infant Formula & Long-Term Effects
25:57 – The Anemia Myth: Why Low Ferritin Isn’t Always Low Iron
28:08 – The Role of Copper in Iron Recycling
31:38 – Practical Steps: Food Choices & The Root Cause Protocol
35:25 – Where to Find Copper in Food
36:02 – Supplements, Cod Liver Oil, and Navigating Misinformation
41:35 – The Internet, AI, and Health Misinformation
51:25 – The Impact of Stress on Iron Metabolism
57:50 – Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More
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